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Straight key training

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:42 pm
by k8mp
Has anyone run across a decent training video on how to handle a straight key? I try to help guys over-the-air but a picture is worth a thousand dits.

Later, Joe, K8MP

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:16 pm
by va3sax
why not make one for them? youtube will host it if you want to upload it. it's very easy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:39 am
by WA2JSG
I'll tell you who was a BIG help to me for the SKS contest. AF2Z put some videos on U-Tube, and they are great. Not necessarily cw training videos, but certainly good-procedure videos in the contests.
Just goggle AF2Z.
Curt # 3018

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:09 am
by NT9K
You can find those SKS videos on the SKCC WES Webpages at:
http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/av.html

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:37 pm
by ka4iqd
So far as form goes is there really a way to teach it? I kind of see the actual sending of code to be more like hitting a baseball, everyone does it a little bit different and should experiment until they find what works for them. Some may develop some weird looking styles but so long as they find it comfortable and they can send good code. That's not to say not to encourage them to try different positions if they feel they could do better or if they can't send for crap :wink: but does anyone think there is a "right way" to send code?

73,
Steve ka4iqd #4302

PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:01 am
by kb4qqj
Joe,
I don't have training videos other than the ones I have made to teach cw classes but I can email you photos from several Morse Code Training manuals.This isn't a video but it shows a good grip on the key knob. And describes the difference between the "nippers", "swingers" "choppers" and just plain "don't do it this way" senders. You will also need to choose between the European method or US method. I prefer the European method for speed and it is far less tiring and painful on long qso's. I haven't figured out how to post photos in these replies yet so I will just email it to you if you are interested. They came from old Morse Code training manuals from the fifties and sixties. And Steve, I do believe there is a right way to send code! It is the best sounding code you can send and there are many "right" ways. However there is also a wrong way. That would be one that can't be copied by most operators. hi. In my opinion, there should always be a goal of the most accurate, consistent code you can possibly send. Speed is of no consequence now a days but accuracy and correctly sent cw is far more enjoyable than something you have to strain to decipher. I hope this is of interest Joe and I haven't bored you to sleep. This could turn into a very long thread LOL. But a very good one. Lot if good information to be gained from all replies.

Randy _ KB4QQJ
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Thunder is Loud and Thunder is impressive, but Lightening does all the Work

PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:00 pm
by va3sax
I'm rather curious about these manuals. I wonder if the library here has anything like that ir if I'd have to take a field trip to the archives library to look at the military one

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:09 pm
by ka4iqd
kb4qqj wrote: And Steve, I do believe there is a right way to send code! It is the best sounding code you can send and there are many "right" ways. However there is also a wrong way. That would be one that can't be copied by most operators. hi. In my opinion, there should always be a goal of the most accurate, consistent code you can possibly send. Speed is of no consequence now a days but accuracy and correctly sent cw is far more enjoyable than something you have to strain to decipher.


Let me clarify a bit. :) When I say form, I mean the mechanical act of hand placement and arm and/or wrist movement. Not in the way the code sounds. I'm right there with you that it should sound good and be easy to copy. :D But so long as it is, would you, or anyone else, try to get someone to change the way they send it just because they have bad form? I've known people with hitting baseballs and throwing bowling balls especially that just throw a fit if someone isn't using what they consider proper form without regard to how well the person actually does.

73,
Steve ka4iqd #4302

PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:13 am
by kb4qqj
KA4IQD Wrote:
Let me clarify a bit. :) ....... But so long as it is, would you, or anyone else, try to get someone to change the way they send it just because they have bad form? I've known people with hitting baseballs and throwing bowling balls especially that just throw a fit ...[/


Not a chance Steve!! I would never presume to tell someone sending good code they were using the wrong form. Send left footed with legs crossed if you like! :lol: I will suggest a different technique if I see someone in my class struggling with speed or accuracy. Maybe suggest a different key setting, but once they master good code then it is "To Each Their Own"

Randy